Almost half of Russians think election will be fixed

Almost half of Russian voters think that this year’s parliamentary elections will be marred by fraud, and will not reflect the will of the people, is the key finding of a suvey by the Levada Centre.

Some key stats:

  • 45% think that the election result will not reflect the will of the people
  • 39% think local officials will fix election results
  • 25% think opposition candidates may be excluded from the election
  • 8% think the election will be fair
  • 33% will consider the new parliament illegitimate
  • 65% want an “against all candidates” option on ballot papers

Interesting results, although one should be careful not to read too much into them.  I suspect that, if you asked a random sample of British voters whether they thought Parliamentary elections in the UK reflected the will of the people, you’d receive a somewhat similar answer.

And electoral fraud isn’t just a problem confined to Russia – take a look at this roundup of electoral fraud (and other problems) from last week’s local elections in the UK.

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About Andy Young

I'm the owner and editor of Siberian Light, a news blog about Russia. My background is in international security, but I developed a strong interest in Russia after living in Irkutsk, Siberia for a year when I was a student.

Comments

  1. db (a different one) says:

    Who Ger? That was a great summation of this discussion. Stick with the facts.

  2. Tim Newman says:

    What about the Kievan Rus legacy and Transnistria independence?

    Yes, these are undoubtedly hot topics of conversation amongst ordinary Russians.

  3. Tim Newman says:

    Actually, this phenomenon of judging a people by their online representatives is probably not unusual.

    I used to frequent a British web forum where one or two of the members had stumbled into the raving moonbat fringe in the US, the ones who are always going on about 9/11 conspiracies, the scam of international banking, freemasons, aliens, etc. Of course, the peddlers of these conspiracies were of the opinion their views were being censored and they couldn’t make their voices heard. The Brits, who were not too smart to begin with, agreed with the Americans that their government was evilly plotting to control the world, etc. and found they made a good impression with their American friends. They interpretted this popularity among a few moonbats in the US to mean that their views would be popular amongst all Americans, if only they were able to break down the conspiracy to silence them.

    I don’t think it occurred to these two Brits that most Americans would think them as nutty as the American they’d befriended. I see a similar situation here, with Averko finding some popularity with a handful of Russians online and assuming that this popularity would extend to the whole population if only the conspiracy to censor his opinions could be broken.

    Reality, as always, is harsh.

  4. claus says:

    Newman is not a good judge of normal behavior. The group conspiring to get off topic includes him and not Averko.

    His friend’s views are not more popular than Averko’s in Pridnestrovie and Russia. Unable to win on the facts, this group chooses to get off topic.

    I rest my case.

  5. anonymous says:

    What I last posted remains sadly true. The hysterically groundless comments do not cover this reality.

  6. Roobit says:

    Is Tim Newman also la Russophobe after virtual (and temporary) sex change operation that he undergoes now and then to transform back to la Russophobe whenever is convenient or is it a different personage altogether?

    Now why is this crowd ganging up on Mike Averko?

    I have no idea what sort of “people” Tim Newman hangs out with (if he is Tim Newman and not la Russophobe or the other way around, as I said he smells … Good morning ladies) or why would judgment of Russia or whatever by those apparently strange people from hostile English speaking countries count at all – only because they got some lowlife “Russian” wives through mailorder, but what I see they are apparently ganging up on that Mike fellow for no apparent good cause.

    As of their knowledge of Russia – I am sorry, I live in Russia and speak the language and I am quite sure that Tim Newman character here is just a Russophobe fraud, who knows s!#t about the country and is trying to lecture Mike Averko on things he, Tim Newman that is, knows absolutely nothing about.

    Besides Sakhalin to Russia and Russians is something like Prince Edward island is to the UK and the British (were it still under the same jurisdiction), remote and not really “Russia”. He says that he lives in Russia (besides I think is a total fraud anyway, so his geographic whereabouts are questionable) but then says he is somewhere near Japan for Christ sake living with some imported mailorder whore – yeah that makes this for a very credible (incredible) story.

  7. Michael Averko says:

    I don’t only discuss Trans-Dniester and the Kievan Rus legacy. To suggest otherwise is an outright distortion. My overall take on FSU issues is more in line with how most Russians think when compared to those critics (or however one wants to term them) of me at this discussion.

    Out of a wide range of interesting QT posted FSU related material, Ger was most interested in an article about the Russian athlete charged with doping. This shows where his biases exist.

    Note the negativity of that particular article. Yet, I posted it because it was a relevant FSU sports issue. So, no one can legitimately accuse me of not having a reasonable approach.

    As for another comment of his: many see the continued shortcomings of Russian government funded English language PR/media efforts. I’ve no bearing on those faults.

  8. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Mike,

    first of all, I dont know what biases you are referring to. Is that the bias that I dont swallow most of your pro-Russian crap? Or pro-Serb rubbish? That being the case, I am biased. The reason I was interested in the doping case is bacause I worked in an anti-doping lab for many years and have actually done a lot of work on anabolic steroids and am familiar with the type of work involved in the case you mentioned. The fact that its a Russian who has been caught is neither here nor there. I get the feeling from your comment above you believe there may be a miscarriage of justice of some sort. No offence Mike, but you are neither a chemist nor doctor nor anything relative to doping, so you havent a clue, not to put too fine a point on it. And considering I havent seen any of the sample integrity documentation or the scientific data from the analyses, neither do I. But I would trust the work and judgement of a WADA accredited laboratory ahead of your groundless opinions anyday. And, as the article notes, the athlete is not contesting the findings.

  9. db says:

    Andy and Ger,

    The comment up this page signed “db” is not mine.

  10. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Nobody I know in Russia cares one bit about Transdniester. Most people (Russians that is) recall having heard about it. It’s occasionally mentioned in the news, but too brief for anybody to give a damn. Talk about Crimea — people do pay attention. Estonia — man, even those who couldn’t be bothered to talk about politics if you offered them a 1000 rubles had an opinion on that one. Abkhazia — vaguely popular, because it’s pretty. South Ossetia… Couldn’t name a person who cares.

    Serbia… some gut reactions as in “they are right, Nato was wrong”, is probably all you can get. Russian’s like Serbs because that’s what you do when you are Russian. In about the same way that American like the Irish… I guess. Only less so.

  11. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Hey, claus… that’s a funny name. Any relations to the man up north?

  12. Michael Averko says:

    Ger

    You’re full of propaganda unlike myself. My views are based on facts and directly reply to what the political opposites are saying. You keep coming up empty in finding anything wrong with my views.

    Unlike yourself, I don’t make pompous comments on topics I know little about. Therefore, I will not reply to your other recently posted comments.

    ———————————————–

    db

    Who cares?

    ———————————————-

    ReluctantMuscovite

    Trans-Dniester is Russocentric. Like I said – I write about a wide range of FSU topics dealing with sports, history and foreign affairs.

    I’m not sure I agree with or get your point about Russians-Serbs vs. Americans-Irish. Generally, I don’t think Russians like Serbs less than Americans like of the Irish.

  13. Michael Averko says:

    ReluctantMuscovite

    It wasn’t that long ago in American history when signs in Boston and elsewhere could be found reading something along the lines of: no Irish please. In America, there were also tensions between some within the Italian and Irish communities. Fortunately, these aspects are no longer so evident (maybe relegated in some very small circles).

    Russians and Serbs never seemed to have these tensions. Serbs and Russians are descended from the same area in Europe. Russia helped liberate Serbia from occupation.

  14. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Russia liberated Serbia? When? Serbians kicked Ottoman, Austrian, Italian, and German butt all by themselves (well, it was a collective effort together with some other Yugos, but that’s almost besides the point). They were about to kick Albanian butt as well, but those fellas called for outside help.

    I don’t remember any time that Russians provided anything but rhetorical assistance to their little Southern brothers. There were some Russian volunteers who went there when the Ottomans were kicked out, but that’s about all.

    When it comes to their Slavic brothers, Russia talks the talk of solidarity, but walks the walk of national interest. Good for Russia, I might say, but still.

  15. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Mike,

    first of all, I’m not taking the ‘no Irish’ in Boston bait. Frankly I find it hard to believe, considering so many people in that city claim to be Irish. Its a cheap shot, but it didnt hit its target. Try to think of a good one next time.

    The reason you ignore my ‘pompous’ opinions is that you have no answer to them. Put simply, they are:
    Russian does not have anything resembling a free media.
    Serbia are the prime movers and villains in the Balkans and
    You dont know anything about doping.

    The two above are widely accepted facts among both westerners and Russians, the last is an assumption made my me, which I daresay is correct. Please feel free to try debunk the three points above. You have failed miserably so far and I’m not going to be drawn out by your rubbish about ‘no Irish’ above. Unlike you, I have no problem with my country’s history and make no attepmt to lie about it, past or present, and at least it is my country. You’re about as Russian as a pair of fake Gucci sunglasses bought in Nikolskaya*

    *Ahem, seeing as you’ve never been to Moscow, Nilkolskaya is a trendy street adjacent to Red Square, leading from there to Lyubyanka Square.

    RM – my feeling from Russians (I’m married to one) is that Serbia is just a pain in the arse that likes to think Russia will bail it out of any trouble that it shamelessly gets itself into(eg ethnic cleansing). As we have seen in 1999, thats not the case.

  16. Michael Averko says:

    ReluctantMuscovite

    Check your facts. Russia played an instrumental role in liberating Serbia in the late 18 seventies. I gather you aren’t familiar with Tcahikovsky’s Marche Slav?

    You’re right that at times, Russia has fallen short in supporting Serbia. However, the great sympathy for it is there in Russia.

    Ger

    You really are showing your ignorance on this one. What I said about those signs is common knowledge among historians specializing on the Irish in America. You really take the cake with your ongoing arrogance and ignorance.

    Once again, I was in Moscow and I’m looking at the proof as I type this note. I’m not obligated to prove this to you. Being married to a Russian (mail order or otherwise) doesn’t substantively prove anything against me.

  17. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Ger,

    I do think that Serbia got an undeservedly bad rap in the Yugoslav wars.

    You may want to look up this link, produced by the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation)
    http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2001-September/000571.html

    Also, do some research on Ruder & Finn Global Affairs – the pr agency hired by Kuwait (Iraq invasion) and Croatia (Yugoslav Civil war).

    The Serbs as villains narrative is convenient, but highly misleading. More than once, Milosevic was a much sought after negotiator and broker in the conflict, even for the Americans.

    The entire Yugoslav conflict is too complex and dirty to be reduced to the simple Serbs vs. humanity tale.

    I have talked to a number of Serbs (starting back in 1992 all the way through to 2003), many of whom were there during the fightings themselves, and very few of them claim to have been victimized, but they can tell you the most absurd stories about the disgusting games played by all sides.

    One of them is the big business of the Sarajevo siege, where Serb and Croat mafias alike made a big business out of providing food to the city. Occasional pot-shots were taken at UN supply planes when prices had dropped too much as a result of UN aid.

    Or those times when Serb artillery was hired by Croats and Bosnians alike to provide fire cover. The Croats would go up the mountain, so to say, give their orders, time, coordinates, and the Serbs would begin to fire on schedule, and stop at the end of the ‘contract’. The next day, the Bosnians would go to the same artillery battery, and ask for fire cover for their counter attack. The Serbs didn’t give a damn whether or not the attacks they were covering needed maybe a bit more fire cover. They had been paid for, say, twenty minutes of shelling, and that’s what the ‘customer’ got.

    Or at other occasions, some Serb military units would sell ammunition to Croats/Bosnians who were fighting against other Serb units.

    There was no real civil war in any meaninful sense much of the time. More often than not, it was simply armed, indepenednt groups of various interests fighting each other for various reasons. Of course, there was the ethnic angle, the Yugo angle, the whatever angle. But, mostly, it was just chaos.

    Milosevic contributed much to bringing sanity to the war, by eliminating and bringing into line the independent operators.

    Tudjman, by the way, has gotten an easy treatment by the Western media, even given the status of a democrat. Start readin up on that angel…

    Milosevic, in my opinion, should have been hung from a bridge in belgrade — by Serbs. But, I seriously object to Nato bringing him to court, and all the other Serbs. Almost no Croats ever saw the court from the inside, not to mention Albanians, who HAVE ethnically cleansend much of Kosovo.

    I think Mike is to obsessed with these issues, and he seriously loses perspective, more often than not. But, when it comes to Yugoland, he’s no more nuts than many of the Western reporters who write about (note i did not say ‘report).

  18. ReluctantMuscovite says:
  19. Kolya says:

    Wel, Russia did play a significant role in the liberation of Serbia and Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire. Moreover, Russian public opinion back then was very pro-Serb and pro-Bulgarian–including thousands of volunteers who went to the Balkans. This enthusiasm was not entirely shared by Russian government of the time.

    But the above has nothing to do with Michael’s ludicrous implication that at present Russian TV is as free to report on Putin as the US and the UK are free to report (and criticize and make fun of) on Bush and Blair.

  20. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Deary me, I wake up with a hangover, turn on the pc and there’s a load of abuse waiting for me from Mike. Cheers!)

    RM -I am certainly being anti-Serb when much if it isnt justified maybe and I do know they werent the only brutes in the region and that its easy to paint them as the worst offenders. But there’s no doubt they carried out the worst ethnic cleansing the some of the most heinous crimes eg. Srebrenica and the Siege of Sarajevo. And to be honest I find it hard to take Mike’s word for anything on either Serbia or PMR, as he writes for blatantly biased propoganda mouthpieces for both places. But I take your points RM -its an education for me, I dont know much about either region at all and will read those links, so maybe there is soem right in what Mike says. However I dont buy for a second anyone’s contention that Russians nowadays care deeply about Serbia -thats not my experience from speaking to Russians. They dont seem to care at all and their attitude is if anything a shrug of shoulders, as if to say ”so what”?

    Mike – you havent been to Moscow. I asked you simple questions over on SRB and you couldnt answer them. You’re not obliged to prove anything to anyone, but it would add just a tiny bit of validation to your self-proclaimed ”expertise” on Russia. As it is, you are telling me and Kolya and everyone else that Russian media is free when we know it isnt, cos we live there, whilst you’ve never been there. As for mail-order brides, I met my wife whilst working in Moscow and had to go and try to get her to come out with me the same way as one would with a woman at home. The days of easily impressing Russian women simply cos one is foreign are long gone. Looking at your photo on Serbianna, with that lovely ”open top” of yours, I think you’d struggle to get a mail order bride even to move from provincial Moldova to New York for you)

    Kolya -he’s not answering what you say because he is unable to. It means he’s lost the argument.

  21. Tim Newman says:

    Being married to a Russian (mail order or otherwise) doesn’t substantively prove anything against me.

    Implying Ger’s wife is a mail-order bride?

    Never let it be said that Mike Averko doesn’t have class.

  22. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Lovely stuff eh Tim?

    A decent person would simply have conceded the original point – that Russia has hopelessly censored news media. But Mike couldnt do it. He had to make endless innaccurate comparisons and when they were beaten he turned to cheap insults.

    He’s a fine piece of work as you can see.

  23. Michael Averko says:

    Tim Newman doesn’t know class to be able to competently define it. This is shown by his arrogant and ignorant comments here and abroad.

    Ger had it coming to him. He thinks because he has a Russian wife and lives in Moscow that he knows more than me on any number of FSU related topics. He continues to lie about my not having been to Moscow. I’m not going to take such BS when I don’t have to.

    None of you have commented on Andy’s point above these comments about how the cited poll prablay would show the same result for British attitudes towards their choices.

    I did reply to your point Kolya. From the looks of things, you didn’t provide a counter-reply.

    ReluctantMuscovite

    I’m, not “nuts” at all. Read my commentary in the columnist segment of http//www.serbianna.com and show me where I’m “nuts”.

    Here’s another one for you

    http://www.tiraspoltimes.com/news/when_will_russia_apply_the_reverse_holbrooke.html

  24. Michael Averko says:
  25. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Ura! Now the ranting is underway!

    Mike, I never claimed to have any better knowledge than you on any FSU topics. But unlike you, I actually have seen Russian television, quite often in fact, and there is no doubt in my mind that there is censorship and pro-government bias on a mass scale. For all your huffing and puffing, you are neither man enough, adult enough nor have the basic courtesy to concede the point. It is small wonder no-one publishes you(I mean big-time media, not blogs). You’d want to grow up Mike. You’re 46 years of age and still arent grown up enough to admit when you are wrong, in the face of tons of evidence from people actually based on Russian soil.

  26. Michael Averko says:

    Prove it Ger!

    Another empty rant from you.

    I do quite well given the kind of poltitical censorship which is evident among Western mass media outlets.

  27. Tim Newman says:

    He thinks because he has a Russian wife and lives in Moscow that he knows more than me on any number of FSU related topics.

    And you think that this is sufficient provocation to imply that his wife is a mail-order bride?

    Keep this up Mike, and you’ll not only be unpopular and unpublished, but detested as well.

  28. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Prove what? What proper media outlets have you been published in? Surely the onus is on you, not me, to prove that you’re anything more than someone with a pc barking a load of pro-Kremlin rubbish. Again, for the cheap seats at the back, I repeat, do you not concede that Russian television is heavily censored and pro-government and not independent? Answer the question! Without any smoke, hot air or rubbish!

  29. Michael Averko says:

    There’s already sound reason to detest Tim, Ger and some others.

    I’m reading some very intersting acounts on Alexander Suvorov’s life. For many Western “Russia watchers”, there’s a good deal of ignorance about him. His life and that of others debunks the myth of a set system in plave which rewards solely on merit. There might be more on this in the coming days (wink, wink).

    RelucantMuscovite

    You said my views on formr Yugo are nutty. Please specify. Here’s another article for you to peruse

    http://www.russiablog.org/2006/11/how_kosovo_factors_into_russoa.php

  30. GER O'BRIEN says:

    You didnt answer the question, so we can take it that you are wrong. You are unable to admit that. Its an enormous indictment as to the type of person you are. No wonder no-one publishes your nonsense except blogs.

    Whats this ‘wink wink’ about? Do you think people are waiting with baited breath for your next poorly-written, half arsed and frankly boring propoganda piece? Who exactly are your fans? You? ”Andrew Waller”? ”Alexandra”? By the way I know who Alexandra is.

  31. Tim Newman says:

    No wonder no-one publishes your nonsense except blogs.

    Even they’ve stopped doing that. The only places he can get published now is on a Serbian propaganda website, and an obscure political pamphlet advocating Transnistrian independence.

    It appears that all other avenues – and there were a few – previously open to him have closed, probably for a mixture of reasons to do with the poor quality of his articles in terms of style and content, no self-editing, a refusal to allow even the slightest editing of his work, endless self-aggrandisement, the picking of pointless fights, howls of censorship, and a campaign of lies against JRL.

    If his articles appear on more than two or three websites over the next 12 months I’d be surprised, hence the mass spamming of everyone with his articles. Mark my words.

  32. GER O'BRIEN says:

    I’m not suprised Tim. If you go to the top of this thread, you’ll see he degenerated it into the row it became. He just couldnt accept that he was wrong about media freedom in Russia and still cant. Its amazing for someone his age.

    The self promotion is just hilarious. I wonder sometimes is he just taking the piss – genuinely. He cant be serious really.

  33. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Ger,

    if I came across as saying that Russians care deeply about Serbia, I would like to clarify that: I think that Russians will, as a rule, take the Serbian side in a dispute between the West and the Serbs, but they won’t waste much breath on it. Frankly, I think Russians are a little like Americans in this way; they don’t care much about anything outside Russia. They have some gut reaction to it, but then generally go back to what they like doing best: make money, complain, and plan their next vacation on some boring beach. On the list of priorities, Serbia ranks quite a bit below the question of Alla Pugacheva’s fashion sense is hot or not.

    Ask a Russian: do you think that Serbia was treated unfairly by NATO in 1999, and he’ll proably agree, but if you bother him with more detailed question he’ll quickly become bored or annoyed.

    Transdniester… oh my. Most Russians wouldn’t know where it is, or what the issue is about. It’s a little thing the Russian government plays with when necessary to push another agenda item.

    Nobody in Russia, at least not very many people, loses any sleep over it.

    Regarding freedom of the press: it’s sufficient for those who care and want to inform themselves. But, it takes a bit more effort. The broad-cast media is certainly less agressive towards the government than in western countries. The point is, though, that Russians like it that way.

    Things are going mostly well, and most Russians don’t want to to bother with politics. I know few Russians who watch the Channel One debates on weekends (is it on Channel One? I barely watch TV, so I am not sure). IF you gave them more politics, they’d simply switch to TV1000 or something like that.

    This must be one of the most apolitical people on earth. They’ve had enough of it.

    The liberal whiners have their Echo of Moscow, they can buy Novaya Gazeta and what have you, and inform themselves.

    The vast majority doesn’t care, and won’t care, as long as the Putinists keep their end of the bargain.

    Personally, I think this is probably good, in the short run. In the long run, this has to change — but I also have the feeling that Putin is in the process of sabotaging the possibility of anybody after him to become a second Putin.

    I think the current situation is an abnormality strictly caused by the personality, style, and needs of Putin.

  34. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Ger,

    you may also want to look up an article called “The Banality of Ethnic War”, by JM Mueller. He deals with, among other things, the Yugoslav conflict. You can find a copy at http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/is2000.pdf

  35. Michael Averko says:

    The Tim & Ger idiothon goes on.

    They’ve yet to prove that Serbianna is a propaganda organ.

    They didn’t address Andy’s points in the post above this discussion.

    On propaganda, just how propagandistic is this piece

    http://tiraspoltimes.com/news/pmr_president_decorated_with_top_order_for_democracy_no_less.html

  36. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Oh, and here’s another one:

    http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/apsa2000.pdf

    (Andy, sorry for posting so many small ones, but I have a very erratic approach to research and posting arguments…)

  37. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Mike,

    “Moscow decorated Pridnestrovie’s President Igor Smirnov with the Dignity Order of the First Degree, given to him for *strengthening friendship between peoples, developing democracy, consolidating Pridnestrovie’s position on international arena and close relations between the people of the unrecognized country and the people of Russia*”

    Any good journalist would have put a quotation mark around the part I marked with stars, and indicated what the source of that statement is.

    The same goes for:

    Igor Smirnov himself also brushes off criticism with much the same nonchalance, adding that such *unfounded allegations just form part of a barrage of propaganda against the unrecognized country which seeks to isolate and demonize Pridnestrovie in order to prevent it from becoming a member in good standing of the international community*.

    As this is probably something the president said. Journalists, at least good ones, should make damn sure that they do not confuse opinions with reporting.

    The wording “with much the same nonchalance” is maybe good for a feature article, but certainly not for a news item.

    and so on and on.

    Just really bad journalistic style. Of course, quite a number of ‘respected’ Western outlets do the same, but that’s not the argument here.

  38. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Mike:

    “They’ve yet to prove that Serbianna is a propaganda organ.”

    Let’s agree on the terms of this definition first, shall we?

    What would it take to convince that Serbianna is a propaganda outlet?

    Otherwise it’s going to be a pointless discussion.

    Let’s agree on terms and conditions first, and then go on…

  39. Tim Newman says:

    They didn’t address Andy’s points in the post above this discussion.

    Actually, were you to use the simple expedient of reading the thread, you would see that I commented on Andy’s post in the 5th comment down.

    Given that based on past performances reading the thread properly is a tall order for you, I’ll repost my comment here:

    On the subject at hand, I’m not surprised almost half of Russian voters think that this year’s parliamentary elections will be marred by fraud.

    Russians have got to be the most politically cynical people on the planet. You mention politics and politicians to most Russians and they roll their eyes, point to the suspiciously large houses in which their representatives live, and complain that nothing will ever change before dismissing the subject completely.

  40. ReluctantMuscovite says:

    Tim:

    tochno.

  41. GER O'BRIEN says:

    RM -thanks for the info, I’m going to read the stuff now.

    Tim – based on past performances and this one as well, ist not suprising that Dr Averko hasnt read what others have added.

    Mike – so, I reiterate, do you concede the point that Russia does not have a free media? I’m not interested in ‘if’, ‘but’ or ‘maybe’. Answer the question please.

  42. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Mike,

    the above you linked to is a propoganda piece, pure and simple. I’m sure that had the writer bothered he’d have found plenty of evidence to criticise Smirnov’s democratic record. The piece is hopelessly biased – it reminds me of the type of atrociously unbalanced writing in Sinn Fein pamphlets, but with none of the charm or wit or proper grammar for that matter. And I daresay the ‘Western diplomat’ quoted is about as real as Santa Claus.

  43. Michael Averko says:

    RM

    Not more propagandistic than the BBC uncritically using Kuzio and Nekrasov as analysts with no oppposition to them during Q & A commentary segments. Ditto the BBC for having so long quoted the bogus 200,000 killed during the Bosnian Civil War hoax. Likewise with the other mentioned examples stated at this thread.

    I gather you don’t find fault with my linked former Yugo commentary. Dr. O’Brien sure hasn’t been able to find any fault with it.

    I’m not going to engage in propaganda. I can agree that no media is “free”. Anglo-American mass media is free for those who can afford to influence it. As some others noted here, most Russians aren’t so concerned with Anglo-American Andrew Kuchnis like critiques of Russian TV media. Russians have other media options, while seeing Kuchins’ criticisms to be a bit selective (put mildly).

  44. db says:

    They’ve yet to prove that Serbianna is a propaganda organ.

    Mike,

    Is the M. Bozinovich that owns serbianna.com the same M. Bozinovich that teaches mathematics at Northwestern High School?

  45. GER O'BRIEN says:

    Mike,

    again, you change the slant and fail miserably to account for your nonsense opinions. ”Russians have other media options”
    As I recall, I was talking about tv being censored and pandering to the state. Not any other type of media, most of which Russians ignore anyway. Most reasonable people would have simply acknowledged this is the case and moved on. Not you. You have to be right, even when you are totally wrong and everyone can see it. One expects this type of behaviour from spotty teenagers, not people in their forties. But then, we’re talking about Mike Averko here.

    I didnt bother reading your piece on russiablog – the writing style was atrocious as usual. I just had a brief scan through and when I saw the picture of the ‘Serb warrior’ I thought thats enough for me, thanks. By the way werent you booted out of Russia blog?
    Sorry, wrong choice of words – it was ‘editorial differences’, right?

  46. Michael Averko says:

    Ger, in comparison, your writing style is even atrocious as usual. Your displayed intellect is even worse, with your stated judgment being frequently warped. Your excuse for not reading the RB article is a copout. In fact, it was very well received unlike the garbage you post here. What about the other linked articles? Keep up the BS. As usual, you’re not making much sense.

    db

    I don’t know. Why should it matter (asked with some trepidation)?

  47. Michael Averko says:

    BTW, I wasn’t “booted” from RB anymore than Peter Lavelle was booted from Russia Profile. Since that last RB article, I was invited back there on two different instances. I’ve other options.

    How about Ann Coulter being booted from National Review or Stephen Schwartz no longer appearing at Front Page Mag? Meantime, all Ger can do is muster petty cheap shots in the Comments section of blogs.

  48. Michael Averko says:

    My displayed grammar in articles is much better than my suddenly posted comments at blogs. This is because my articles are written over a course of days with periodic grammar checks on my end.

    Ger is therefore being a phony with his BS excuse for not reading that article. Once again, he didn’t have anything to say about the other linked articles on the same subject.

    Along with some others, he goes off topic with personal comments having nothing to do with the subject matter. This is a clear example of net trolling.

    db is aonther such example with his ra

  49. Michael Averko says:

    Sorry for the cutoff. Let’s see db relate his last question to the substance of this discussion.

    RM seems willing to have an earnest discussion.

  50. db says:

    Why should it matter (asked with some trepidation)?

    Mike,

    Doesn’t it bother you when a “political analyst” with “advanced degrees in Political Philosophy, Economics, Mathematics and Pedagogy in reality turns out to be a highschool math teacher?

    Makes me wonder again — what do you do for a living?

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