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		<title>By: leluuu</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/we-dont-wanna-put-in-georgias-eurovision-video/comment-page-1/#comment-2142</link>
		<dc:creator>leluuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irishman
Thanks for your reply, it is interesting to exchange views with you, unlike others :)
I suppose you havent hear anything abouit Georgian Hospitality :D haha sorry if all my posts look very national but the topic has brought :D

Well if you haven&#039;t lisitened then check out Georgian folk music and dances. You might not necessarily like them, its not the main point here, but at least it will give you some kind of idea about us, though you might need some Georgian guide to explain certain things :) as for the Georgian song for Eurovision I can not say i like it or that I do not, but as I have already mentioned there is no use of sending some1 way talanted there , there was no use to protest and not to take part in it and this song is like a mix of everything. I do not even know if Russians blocked it.

You might think I hate Russians but it is not true, honestly. And one does not need to be genious to get that you should try to have good relationships with your neughbour, especially hundred times bigger plus stronger then you, but it&#039;s even more foolish to think that little Georgia could be the reason of misunderstandings.
you ever been to Russia? Do not even compare England with Russia, okay? coz it is like black and white, like the opposite directions. Georgia will always be like a rebel republic that should be a state of Russia and not independent country. The geopolitical location that&#039;s what makes my country at the center of attention Until ppl in Russia still dream about regaining the Soviet Union there is no use even to try. and they do believe in it, and you know why? coz Russia is used to be a powerfull Empire. You think it is up to little Georgia? no my friend, you think it is  between Putin and Saakashvilli?? more then that, it is not even Russia-Georgia thing, it&#039;s more US-Russia efforts to have a power and control ower the world.

Why do we need to enter NATO? -  to feel more secure - that&#039;s my answer. your country has not been bombed several times, but ours was, and during years even before the August 2008, but could we ever fire back? no we couldn&#039;t coz A) we had no weapon for that, B) it was powerful Russia.. Russians are backing conflict zones, giving out their pasports, took some lands etc, etc, you do not need to know everything, it will just load you. I am not much into politics, it is too dirty, but once you are Georgian you should be knowing a think or two about it :P

That&#039;s the matter, not very promising though, but I think we&#039;re gonna go through it.

Bests

leluuu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishman<br />
Thanks for your reply, it is interesting to exchange views with you, unlike others <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I suppose you havent hear anything abouit Georgian Hospitality <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  haha sorry if all my posts look very national but the topic has brought <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well if you haven&#8217;t lisitened then check out Georgian folk music and dances. You might not necessarily like them, its not the main point here, but at least it will give you some kind of idea about us, though you might need some Georgian guide to explain certain things <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  as for the Georgian song for Eurovision I can not say i like it or that I do not, but as I have already mentioned there is no use of sending some1 way talanted there , there was no use to protest and not to take part in it and this song is like a mix of everything. I do not even know if Russians blocked it.</p>
<p>You might think I hate Russians but it is not true, honestly. And one does not need to be genious to get that you should try to have good relationships with your neughbour, especially hundred times bigger plus stronger then you, but it&#8217;s even more foolish to think that little Georgia could be the reason of misunderstandings.<br />
you ever been to Russia? Do not even compare England with Russia, okay? coz it is like black and white, like the opposite directions. Georgia will always be like a rebel republic that should be a state of Russia and not independent country. The geopolitical location that&#8217;s what makes my country at the center of attention Until ppl in Russia still dream about regaining the Soviet Union there is no use even to try. and they do believe in it, and you know why? coz Russia is used to be a powerfull Empire. You think it is up to little Georgia? no my friend, you think it is  between Putin and Saakashvilli?? more then that, it is not even Russia-Georgia thing, it&#8217;s more US-Russia efforts to have a power and control ower the world.</p>
<p>Why do we need to enter NATO? &#8211;  to feel more secure &#8211; that&#8217;s my answer. your country has not been bombed several times, but ours was, and during years even before the August 2008, but could we ever fire back? no we couldn&#8217;t coz A) we had no weapon for that, B) it was powerful Russia.. Russians are backing conflict zones, giving out their pasports, took some lands etc, etc, you do not need to know everything, it will just load you. I am not much into politics, it is too dirty, but once you are Georgian you should be knowing a think or two about it <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the matter, not very promising though, but I think we&#8217;re gonna go through it.</p>
<p>Bests</p>
<p>leluuu</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/we-dont-wanna-put-in-georgias-eurovision-video/comment-page-1/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;But before you start cussing out one country or another, my advice to you, read a little bit more about them, or at least, if you are die-fan of talanted people and good music, listen to Georgian music and then make mile long posts here.&#039;&#039;

:-) leluuu, I havent even heard the Georgian song to start dissing it! But the reality is the Eurovision is now hopelessly biased towards an Eastern European win. The
(Eastern) block (bloc?) voting now means the old competitors really have no chance anymore. And apart from anything else its not really about talent or good songs. Its a bait small-minded of the organisers to have banned the Georgian song, but perhaps the rules say the song cant be overtly political.

&#039;&#039;I refer personally you as an Irish man, coz I think you should me knowing what it means for a little nation to fight for freedom over the centuries, and what makes things worse it that huge North neighbour never leaves a little country like Georgia in peace&#039;&#039;
I suppose we do, but there comes a time when you have to move on as well. The only place Ireland and England really fight now is on the rugby field, and, apart from murder in the scrum, (and them CONTINUOUSLY going offside and holding on, ahem, ANDY!)its a big party. The problem for Georgia though is that the whole thing has become very personal now, between Putin and Saakashvilli. Until both of them are gone I cant see how relations can improve. At this moment Georgia would do well to ignore NATO and simply focus on getting into the EU, which, if nothing else, will improve Georgia&#039;s economic progress, much as it transformed ours. I imagine that feelings are very raw now for Georgians, and its just a pity that there is nobody progressive in either Moscow or Tbilisi to improve relations. No matter what happens you are neighbours and again, as Ireland have learned, its better be friends than foes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;But before you start cussing out one country or another, my advice to you, read a little bit more about them, or at least, if you are die-fan of talanted people and good music, listen to Georgian music and then make mile long posts here.&#8221;<br />
 <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  leluuu, I havent even heard the Georgian song to start dissing it! But the reality is the Eurovision is now hopelessly biased towards an Eastern European win. The<br />
(Eastern) block (bloc?) voting now means the old competitors really have no chance anymore. And apart from anything else its not really about talent or good songs. Its a bait small-minded of the organisers to have banned the Georgian song, but perhaps the rules say the song cant be overtly political.</p>
<p>&#8221;I refer personally you as an Irish man, coz I think you should me knowing what it means for a little nation to fight for freedom over the centuries, and what makes things worse it that huge North neighbour never leaves a little country like Georgia in peace&#8221;<br />
I suppose we do, but there comes a time when you have to move on as well. The only place Ireland and England really fight now is on the rugby field, and, apart from murder in the scrum, (and them CONTINUOUSLY going offside and holding on, ahem, ANDY!)its a big party. The problem for Georgia though is that the whole thing has become very personal now, between Putin and Saakashvilli. Until both of them are gone I cant see how relations can improve. At this moment Georgia would do well to ignore NATO and simply focus on getting into the EU, which, if nothing else, will improve Georgia&#8217;s economic progress, much as it transformed ours. I imagine that feelings are very raw now for Georgians, and its just a pity that there is nobody progressive in either Moscow or Tbilisi to improve relations. No matter what happens you are neighbours and again, as Ireland have learned, its better be friends than foes.</p>
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		<title>By: leluuu</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/we-dont-wanna-put-in-georgias-eurovision-video/comment-page-1/#comment-2140</link>
		<dc:creator>leluuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irishman

Hard to disagree, I personally think that Eurovision is not a contest where talanted people can win. Thats why Georgia has sent the group and the song good enough for the host!

But before you start cussing out one country or another, my advice to you, read a little bit more about them, or at least, if you are die-fan of talanted people and good music, listen to Georgian music and then make mile long posts here.

I refer personally you as an Irish man, coz I think you should me knowing what it means for a little nation to fight for freedom over the centuries, and what makes things worse it that huge North neighbour never leaves a little country  like Georgia in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishman</p>
<p>Hard to disagree, I personally think that Eurovision is not a contest where talanted people can win. Thats why Georgia has sent the group and the song good enough for the host!</p>
<p>But before you start cussing out one country or another, my advice to you, read a little bit more about them, or at least, if you are die-fan of talanted people and good music, listen to Georgian music and then make mile long posts here.</p>
<p>I refer personally you as an Irish man, coz I think you should me knowing what it means for a little nation to fight for freedom over the centuries, and what makes things worse it that huge North neighbour never leaves a little country  like Georgia in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/we-dont-wanna-put-in-georgias-eurovision-video/comment-page-1/#comment-2139</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: My Last Post</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll rephrase the stated &#8220;two extremes,&#8221; with two views that some will no doubt find agreement with.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another view that reflects how many in Ukraine view Russia. A point touched on at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/email/recasting-ukraines-identity" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/email/recasting-ukraines-identity</a></p>
<p>No one forced the Ukrainian contestant to represent Russia.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/93871" rel="nofollow">INTERVIEW: Eritrean Diaspora vs. Government Controlled Media</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/we-dont-wanna-put-in-georgias-eurovision-video/comment-page-1/#comment-2138</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if some might take this as a political move:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7931726.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7931726.stm</a></p>
<p>It can be possibly taken in two extremes.</p>
<p>- Russian imperialists seeking to dramatize the idea of Russo-Ukrainian closeness</p>
<p>- Desperate Russkies going abroad for talent</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/93871" rel="nofollow">INTERVIEW: Eritrean Diaspora vs. Government Controlled Media</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Initially, I thought this would probably sink without a trace, but people seem to be speculating that the infamous block voting that brought Russia it’s Eurovision win last year might work in Georgia’s favour, delivering a massive snub to Putin on his home turf, in front of a television audience of more than 100 million Europeans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither Russia or Georgia should even be in the Eurovision. They and the rest of the CIS and the ex Comecon countries should be left tear themselves to bits in their own competition. Ireland, as undisputed Eurovision champions, should be free to win it whenever the mood takes us!</p>
<p>Seriously though the block voting in Eastern Europe is completely out of hand and is making a futher mockery of what was already a mockery. Block voting in the old days meant Ireland giving the UK 12 points and vice versa; these days countries are getting 60 points from their slavic &#8221;brothers&#8221;, whatever that bloody means. Like I said a separate competition for all the banana republics in the East would be ideal, and let the top four come out and sing against the original countries, and not let them vote in the finals. Harsh, but fair I think, and would bury block voting big time.</p>
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		<title>By: ELENE</title>
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		<dc:creator>ELENE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is so shame song ..

these people who sang a song are 4 poor singers who did everything for being popular ....
so ... this is the part of shameless people who live in our country ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so shame song ..</p>
<p>these people who sang a song are 4 poor singers who did everything for being popular &#8230;.<br />
so &#8230; this is the part of shameless people who live in our country &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elene</title>
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		<dc:creator>elene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is so shameful song ...


so ... this is the part of shameless people who live in our country Georgia ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so shameful song &#8230;</p>
<p>so &#8230; this is the part of shameless people who live in our country Georgia &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/we-dont-wanna-put-in-georgias-eurovision-video/comment-page-1/#comment-2134</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rferl.org/content/Georgian_Singers_Sad_Song_Only_Making_Russians_See_Red/1503373.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rferl.org/content/Georgian_Singers_Sad_Song_Only_Making_Russians_See_Red/1503373.html</a></p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/93168" rel="nofollow">WINNING AT WORKING&#8211;ANCORA IMPARO</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s Georgian opposition to Saakashvili, as well as what one sees from the South Ossetians and Abkhaz.</p>
<p>Like I suggested, Russia might be best off by not giving too much attention to the Georgian Eurovision entry. Having said that, Russian opposition to that entry is premised on what can be considered a point of etiquette &#8211; as per an understanding of what Eurovision should be about (Andy makes reference to it in his above post).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/93158" rel="nofollow">Rapper Luther Campbell Says He Was Jailed &#8216;Unfairly&#8217; Because of Unpaid Legal Fees, not Child Support</a></em></abbr></p>
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