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		<title>By: Free world</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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Really? Dairire, a chara? Cheapean me nach bhfuil tu Eireanach. An bhfuil aon Gaeilge agat? Ce as thu? Did you buy any chance bring home an Ossetian wife? It would explain the massive pile of bullshit that you subsequently wrote. What kind of Irish college &#8211; which colleges exactly &#8211; send kids to fucking Vladikavkaz?</p>
<p>Heres a link showing Letterkenny college being an offical partner to the North-Ossetian State University in Vladikavkaz.  Students do not goto Vladikavkaz they come from there to study in Ireland. though I don&#8217;t think they do it anymore.</p>
<p><a href="http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=1839&#038;URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&#038;URL_SECTION=208.html" rel="nofollow">http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=1839&#038;URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&#038;URL_SECTION=208.html</a></p>
<p>As for the Ossetian wife no I am way too busy for that., but I will tell you this the women are very pretty. They remind me in the stereo type Italian woman.</p>
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&#8220;I called what you wrote nonsense, and point-by-point I went through that nonsense. If you cant see that, or refuse to acknowledge that., then maybe you’d best avoid posting Ossetian/Russian garbage in future. Most of what you wrote was simply WRONG. If you believe that Chechnya started the First War in 1994, then you either hopelessly ill-informed, disingenuous, or both. Le do thoil, a chara.&#8221;</p>
<p>I clearly did not see your post as it was probably in amonst all the nonsense name calling you and other members where clearly taking part in. So I will reply to them now.</p>
<p>First an foremost if I want a regurgitation of politcal spin on Chechnya I will look at CNN. What most western political commentators tell us is that Chechnya was  a little nation yearning for independance and declared it in 1991. However the big bully Russia using a variety of dirty tactics eventually bombed Grozny in 1994. The thing about propaganda is its partially true. Russia did bomb Grozny in 1994, Russia did enter into Chechnya in 1994. However this viewpoint leaves out several key facts.  The first chechen war actually started directly after the declaration of independance. I know its nice and neat for some to say the war started when the russians launched their first attack however there had been running battles in Chechnya in the years before that.  Some refer to the period of 1991-1994  as the undeclared civil war though very quietly. This period was was to see the split in the Chechen Ingush Autonomous Region and is the first time Chechnya&#8217;s borders as they are now even existed. You have failed to mention at best Chechens where split on seeking independance and this was the catayst for the start the war. Another point you failed to mention was the brutal ethnic cleansing of non-chechens including ethnic Russians and other nationalities upto 1993 and was the main reason for the collapse of the chechn economy. Estimates put the number at least 90,000 ethnic cleansed. These where the first casualities of the first conflict in Chechnya.</p>
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Really? Dairire, a chara? Cheapean me nach bhfuil tu Eireanach. An bhfuil aon Gaeilge agat? Ce as thu? Did you buy any chance bring home an Ossetian wife? It would explain the massive pile of bullshit that you subsequently wrote. What kind of Irish college &#8211; which colleges exactly &#8211; send kids to fucking Vladikavkaz?</p>
<p>Heres a link showing Letterkenny college being an offical partner to the North-Ossetian State University in Vladikavkaz.  Students do not goto Vladikavkaz they come from there to study in Ireland. though I don&#8217;t think they do it anymore.</p>
<p><a href="http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=1839&#038;URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&#038;URL_SECTION=208.html" rel="nofollow">http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=1839&#038;URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&#038;URL_SECTION=208.html</a></p>
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”The most brutal battle in this period was the battle of Grozny a battle started by chechens. The chechen victory here resulted in Russia shelling Grozny and media coverage in moscow forced Yeltsin to a peace agreement an eventually his job.”</p>
<p>You have jumped to conclusions. Infact there where three battles of Grozny.  The last in August 1996 a battle started by the Chechens.</p>
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Yes, of course we are all convinced of the integrity of the FSB and the Russian courts, and should ignore the truckload of hexogen placed in a building in Ryazan by the Moscow FSB (without telling the Ryazan FSB) and which was later claimed to be a ‘drill’. Some bloody drill that, almost exactly like the real thing, except without the boom. And yes we should all also believe it was entirely in Chechnya’s interest to have their people bomb Moscow.</p>
<p>It was as much in the Chechens interests to bomb these buildings as to invade Dagestan or for example</p>
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Again this is simply untrue. Most Russians did not leave until after bombing started and Chechnya was actually one of the few regions that had a functioning economy in 1994, courtesy of smuggling on a massive scale from Turkey and Dubai.</p>
<p>At least 90,000 where forced out with some estimates as high as 200,000. Chechens effectively ethnic cleansed those key to their economy. Russias blockade, effectivey cut off jobs in Russia and trade. As for the Russian coined phrase &#8220;Chechen bandit economy&#8221; only warlords and chechen politicans got rich of this including Dudayev. In 1993 many Chechens  did not even get their salaries paid.</p>
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Stop conning yourself. The Russians couldnt be like the Brits if they fucking tried. They bombed the shit out the place, ruined Grozny (what was left of it) and killed thousands more people, and, thanks to a clampdown on NTV, no-one has any idea how many really died. If you’re Irish then I’m bloody ashamed.</p>
<p>That was the very point I was making like the Brits they bombed the crap out of the place.</p>
<p>The NTV claim is pretty weak, first considering that its impossible to total casualites in any war. Just go and ask the americans or British how many civilians have died in Iraq see what anwser you get. you also failed to mention that towards the end of 1995. Remeber Chechens would never have disguised themselves as journalists being a guerilla force and all. Of course the Russias really copied the US bombings in 1995 in Yugoslavia and first Iraq conflict.</p>
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The Russians were not facing even half the rebels in 1999 than they did in 1994. Chechnya was a broken country by then courtesy of being starved of Federal funds, subversion by the FSB and no spoort at all for the government there from Moscow. And Russia went in, again, and destroyed the place, again. Marvellous.</p>
<p>So Chechnya where broken because of being starved of federal funds! What would Chechnya want Federal funds considering they declared independance from Russia.</p>
<p>Again wheres you mention of how the Shamil Basayev led 1400 men in Dagestan. It was this event that triggered the second chechen conflict.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Da Russophile, A Year On &#124; Sublime Oblivion</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  troll strikes again.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a poor communicator. I was referring to WW II. You then mention the &#8220;first war&#8221; right after commenting about reference which was made to WW II.</p>
<p>Everyone makes a mistake.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to be confused with the BLATANT LYING you did over at Russia Blog (the link was previously referenced at this thread).</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who continuously trolls on about Chechnya in a way that hasn&#8217;t negated anything I said, other an earnest mis-statement.</p>
<p>You really are small as shown by the creepy way you carry on.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/87390" rel="nofollow">National Library Service Improves Quality of Life for Blind and Handicapped</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-stupid-people/comment-page-3/#comment-2008</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;That person sure as heck wasn’t yours truly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahem. Actually it was you. Click on the link below and read the comments underneath. You got it wrong, and even &#8211; grudgingly-admitted it, when you had no way out. I wouldnt have brought this up except for the fact that this alone convinced me you know nichevo about Chechnya.</p>
<p><a href="http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/05/22/crying-sun-the-impact-of-war-in-the-mountains-of-chechnya/#comment-3178" rel="nofollow">http://seansrussiablog.org/2007/05/22/crying-sun-the-impact-of-war-in-the-mountains-of-chechnya/#comment-3178</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That person sure as heck wasn&#8217;t yours truly.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/87367" rel="nofollow">Hugo Chavez To Keep Sending Free Oil To US Poor</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;If you don’t want to challenge any of my post then keep me out of your little schoolyard name calling session please I don’t have enough time for that. &#8221;</p>
<p>I called what you wrote nonsense, and point-by-point I went through that nonsense. If you cant see that, or refuse to acknowledge that., then maybe you&#8217;d best avoid posting Ossetian/Russian garbage in future. Most of what you wrote was simply WRONG. If you believe that Chechnya started the First War in 1994, then you either hopelessly ill-informed, disingenuous, or both. Le do thoil, a chara.</p>
<p>&#8221;By the way Finbar is the anglicised form of Fionnbharr who was an abbott and bishop who kept the Catholic Church alive in Ireland during the seventh and eighth centuries&#8230;.&#8221; etc</p>
<p>Free world, could you do us a favour? Rather than copying almost verbatin stuff from the internet, and passing it off as your own, couldnt you simply provide a link to what you are thieving?<br />
<a href="http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Finbar" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Finbar</a></p>
<p>&#8221;This was achieved despite Stalin’s blunders which included a purging of the Red Army officer corps in the 1930s and his refusal to believe his own intell. of an upcoming Nazi attack. &#8221;</p>
<p>Thats totally true. And lets not forget Hitler&#8217;s contribution, telling Guderian to ignore Moscow with the city at his mercy and concentrate on the South.</p>
<p>&#8221;Without naming names, some individuals frankly don’t know the subject matter they’re commenting on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, at least I know the year the First War started, unlike someone I could mention, without naming names. .</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Objectivity&#8221; and Russia</p>
<p>This note serves as a follow-up to my last set of comments.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s inaccurate to believe that by default Marxist, neocon and neolib leaning individuals are more accurate sources over some others. The same can be said of some other views as well. Besides, within each grouping, there&#8217;s room for disagreement. I&#8217;ve had respectful differences of opinion with people who I often agree with.</p>
<p>Without naming names, some individuals frankly don&#8217;t know the subject matter they&#8217;re commenting on. A case in point is the individual who said that my written commentary is &#8220;anti-Semitic,&#8221; while simultaneously saying that he wasn&#8217;t familiar with such material. Is that intelligent commentary on his part? On his claim, the private and not so private feedback was 100% against him. This included people who have disagreed with me on other topics.</p>
<p>As for my &#8220;objectivity,&#8221; I&#8217;ll give another example from what was mentioned in my previously posted comments. I&#8217;d a conversation with someone very familiar with Siberian Light <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />    The discussion was about some views from Russia which suggested that Russia&#8217;s top ice hockey league can eventually challenge the National Hockey League in overall quality. With facts, I expressed the view that such a thought was far fetched in the foreseeable future and one which doesn&#8217;t benefit Russia&#8217;s top ice hockey league. In jest, the person I was discussing this topic with said that my &#8220;reputation&#8221; can get shattered with such a thought.</p>
<p>As an example of he kind of BS I&#8217;ve faced, it&#8217;s not earnest advocacy to comparatively jump all over me while being mum on comments which say that Stalin was instrumental in defeating Nazism (this matter deals with another venue). More accurately put, the peoples comprising the USSR were instrumental in defeating Nazism. This was achieved despite Stalin&#8217;s blunders which included a purging of the Red Army officer corps in the 1930s and his refusal to believe his own intell. of an upcoming Nazi attack. The latter point resulted in the USSR not being well defended during the Nazi attack.</p>
<p>The other day, I mentioned this point to a Belarusian Orthodox Jew from Minsk. He didn&#8217;t disagree with me. However, he expressed the view that Russians tend to give the leader credit when things are going well, while conversely blaming him/her when things aren&#8217;t going right. I&#8217;m not sure how different or how much more different this is from other peoples. In any event, this view isn&#8217;t always accurate. A lousy coach can still win on account of having a very talented team. Likewise, a very good coach can still lose because his team isn&#8217;t so talented.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/87194" rel="nofollow">Mentoring Women and Women Mentoring</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another round of inaccurate commernts from the usual source. This includes suddenly playing the role of innocent victim after stating a series of disrespectful and inaccurate comments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a constructive critic of Russia. This has included my expressed views on Russia&#8217;s decision to recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia as indpendent states. Along with some others, I&#8217;ve offered valid constructive suggestions on improving the current status quo of Russian government funded English language media/PR efforts.</p>
<p>Some people erroneously see themselves as being more &#8220;objective.&#8221; Overall, that&#8217;s not the case. Moreover, I&#8217;m the one offering valid points, which are often under-respresented at a number of the leading non-Russian English language venues. I do this by welcoming earnest (as opposed to not so earnest) dialogue with those in disagreement.</p>
<p>The word &#8220;small&#8221; can refer to something else other than the actual height of a person.</p>
<p>My M.O. is clear. Interact respectfully and this manner will be reciprocated. Get chippy and you can expect the same.</p>
<p>I dunno what&#8217;s up with that last blog post bit.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Michael Averko´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/87193" rel="nofollow">Congress Should Bail Out Porn Industry</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Free world</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Free World’s drivel above &#8211; clearly most of it is just WRONG. Factually wrong! Not opinion, facts.</p>
<p>If you have a problem with what I have posted I am quite willing to listen read what you have to say, even willing to correct my post. Claiming somebody is factually wrong not opinion, facts is extremely weak considering in your post you did not challenge one fact that I posted or even produced any of your own.  If you don&#8217;t want to challenge any of my post then keep me out of your little schoolyard name calling session please I don&#8217;t have enough time for that.</p>
<p>By the way Finbar is the anglicised form of Fionnbharr who was an abbott and bishop who kept the Catholic Church alive in Ireland during the seventh and eighth centuries. There are many myths about Fionnbharr including crossing the Irish sea on a horse. There is an Island of the coast of scotland named after him Barra. Also the more common name Barry is a version of Fionnbharr.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;How coincidental is it for another Irishman &#8221;</p>
<p>About as coincidental as finding another Yank, Brit, Frog or Paddy who disagrees with you. Indeed, with the exception of a few Russians, probably nationalists, there are around 6 billion people who likely disagree with you. I&#8217;ve certainly had shots at you elsewhere, but I dunno who Finbar is.</p>
<p>&#8221;All of this relates to Andy’s above post. STUPID people who immediately jump on what someone else says because of their own small minded views. &#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, I am neither Russophobe nor Russophile, nor would I call anyone such names, except you, because you are a Russophile. Certainly if Andy is referring to me I am sure he would have let me know by now. Taking a hard line on Chechnya, unlike apologising for it does not mean I have a small mind. Stop speaking for other people.</p>
<p>&#8221;You’re a creepy little crank,&#8221; &#8221;your frequently sleazy manner.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably taller than you, but apart from that I havent personally insulted you on this thread and I am not going to follow your lead in response.</p>
<p>&#8221;It’s not a lie to note how you have perioidically refer to me at another venue.&#8221;<br />
 I&#8217;ve often referred to positively there, and I think I recently said you were knowledgeable on a lot Russia stuff.</p>
<p>&#8221;Michael Averko´s last blog post..Congress Should Bail Out Porn Industry&#8221;</p>
<p>WTF?:-) Do they need bailing out too?</p>
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