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	<title>Comments on: Russia Blog Roundup, 17 June</title>
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		<title>By: Trevar</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this web site. one grandfather family origin originall Russia..have much love for Russia..happy to correspond for interest ...hope to return Russia again soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this web site. one grandfather family origin originall Russia..have much love for Russia..happy to correspond for interest &#8230;hope to return Russia again soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Advocate</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among other things, a much better source on languages:

http://www.hotforwords.com/bio/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among other things, a much better source on languages:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotforwords.com/bio/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hotforwords.com/bio/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that is what I meant (different tenses/moods of a single verb).

Greek was (still is? I don&#039;t know modern Greek) characterized by a huge number of different set of conjugation patterns. I&#039;m going to write in Latin characters rather than Greek because I do not have a Greek keyboard or translit program. There are the -ein verbs (like &quot;luein&quot; above, &quot;to loosen/free&quot;), which become &quot;esthai&quot; in the middle voice, e.g. luesthai, &quot;to be loosened or freed.&quot; Then there are the -emi verbs, like hiemi (I send), didomi (I give), istami (I stand), etc. And then a whole bunch of others. When I get home I might actually try to tally up all the declension patterns -- however boring this might be to ecerybody else. :) I wonder how they would compare to Russian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that is what I meant (different tenses/moods of a single verb).</p>
<p>Greek was (still is? I don&#8217;t know modern Greek) characterized by a huge number of different set of conjugation patterns. I&#8217;m going to write in Latin characters rather than Greek because I do not have a Greek keyboard or translit program. There are the -ein verbs (like &#8220;luein&#8221; above, &#8220;to loosen/free&#8221;), which become &#8220;esthai&#8221; in the middle voice, e.g. luesthai, &#8220;to be loosened or freed.&#8221; Then there are the -emi verbs, like hiemi (I send), didomi (I give), istami (I stand), etc. And then a whole bunch of others. When I get home I might actually try to tally up all the declension patterns &#8212; however boring this might be to ecerybody else. <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I wonder how they would compare to Russian.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan da Cunha</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2407</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan da Cunha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re talking about 2 different things. You&#039;re talking about the number of forms one verb can take (right?). I&#039;m talking about the diffferent classes of verb, where each one requires a different set of conjugations. Consider:

????????, ????????, ????????, ???????????, ?????, ?????, ?????, ????, ?????????, ??????, ???????, and so on...all conjugated differently</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re talking about 2 different things. You&#8217;re talking about the number of forms one verb can take (right?). I&#8217;m talking about the diffferent classes of verb, where each one requires a different set of conjugations. Consider:</p>
<p>????????, ????????, ????????, ???????????, ?????, ?????, ?????, ????, ?????????, ??????, ???????, and so on&#8230;all conjugated differently</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russian barely even has a subjunctive. I mean, c&#039;mon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russian barely even has a subjunctive. I mean, c&#8217;mon.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2405</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I came up with upwards of 10 different conjugations, and that’s just my informal count.&#8221;</p>
<p>Har! Look at a complete Classical Greek conjugation,list sometime, just for a boring verb like &#8220;luein.&#8221; (Seemingly the only completely regular verb in Athenian dialect.) Russian has usually two infinitives for every verb. Greek has at least 6 (luein, lusai, luesthai, lusasthai, lelukenai, luthenai, and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m forgetting the passive plusperfect infinite at least).</p>
<p>luo, lueis, luei, luomen, luete, luousin<br />
luomai, lue, luetai, luometha, luesthe, luontai<br />
eluon, elues, elue, eluomen, ulete, eluon<br />
elusa, elusas, eluse, elusamen, elusate, elusan<br />
luoimi, luois, luoi, luiomen, luoite, luoien</p>
<p>Etc. etc, etc, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan da Cunha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan da Cunha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Incidentally, Russian verbs are okay until you get to the perfective and imperfective: when you use which is completely beyond me and, I suspect, anyone.&quot;

I find it&#039;s more than just aspect that&#039;s the problem. I once sat down and tried to figure out exactly how many ways there are to conjugate a Russian verb. I came up with upwards of 10 different conjugations, and that&#039;s just my informal count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Incidentally, Russian verbs are okay until you get to the perfective and imperfective: when you use which is completely beyond me and, I suspect, anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find it&#8217;s more than just aspect that&#8217;s the problem. I once sat down and tried to figure out exactly how many ways there are to conjugate a Russian verb. I came up with upwards of 10 different conjugations, and that&#8217;s just my informal count.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have problems wrapping my mind around a society in which the doings of Alexander the Great (and the dirty Macedonian-loving traitor Aristotle) can arouse such passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have problems wrapping my mind around a society in which the doings of Alexander the Great (and the dirty Macedonian-loving traitor Aristotle) can arouse such passion.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Newman</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2402</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Have you caught the OUTRAGE!! in Greece over Macedonia renaming its main highway the Alexander the Great Highway?&lt;/em&gt;

This is why Macedonia doesn&#039;t have an embassy in Canberra: the Greek dispora has prevented it.

Incidentally, Russian verbs are okay until you get to the perfective and imperfective: when you use which is completely beyond me and, I suspect, anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you caught the OUTRAGE!! in Greece over Macedonia renaming its main highway the Alexander the Great Highway?</em></p>
<p>This is why Macedonia doesn&#8217;t have an embassy in Canberra: the Greek dispora has prevented it.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Russian verbs are okay until you get to the perfective and imperfective: when you use which is completely beyond me and, I suspect, anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/russia-blog-roundup-17-june/comment-page-1/#comment-2401</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>English is my native language so it is hard to judge, but I think that the weird English tenses (which Icelandic and I suppose the other Scandinavian languages also have, which is weird since they are North Germanic languages while English and German are both West Germanic -- what happened to German?) would make it difficult. Really the declension pattern in German is ridiculously simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>English is my native language so it is hard to judge, but I think that the weird English tenses (which Icelandic and I suppose the other Scandinavian languages also have, which is weird since they are North Germanic languages while English and German are both West Germanic &#8212; what happened to German?) would make it difficult. Really the declension pattern in German is ridiculously simple.</p>
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