Comments on: Hospital fire kills 45 women http://siberianlight.net/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/ The Russia Blog Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:11:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: La Russophobe http://siberianlight.net/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/comment-page-1/#comment-2903 La Russophobe Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:52:37 +0000 http://www.siberianlight.net/2006/12/09/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/#comment-2903 ANDY: Ah, I can see you've never actually spent any time as an inpatient in a Russian hospital, if you think people are being "looked after" there. *wink* Quite often there's little difference between a Russian hospital and a concentration camp or torture chamber See here: http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2006/09/that-form-of-torture-they-call-russian.html and also check out the fourth picture from the bottom here: http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2006/10/sunday-photos.html Also, you've apparently not heard about the famous Russian village of Potemkin. Russia's government does understand that it has to put up a pretext of civilization since it lacks the resources for a real neo-Stalinist crackdown. And how about asking the converse question: If Russian hospitals really care for people, why did Boris Yeltsin bring in foreign doctors? But really all you need to know where Russian hospitals are concerned is (a) last weekend they killed 54 people and (b) Russia's popoulation is a net loser of 1 million ever year. That about as uncaring as you can get without actually building gas chambers. Here's a link on the bombing committee members being taken out one by one: http://www.publiuspundit.com/?p=3079 On the medical front, you might be also interested in the way neo-Soviet Russia is re-weaponizing psychiatry: http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2006/06/neo-soviet-union-brings-back-use-of.html ANDY:

Ah, I can see you’ve never actually spent any time as an inpatient in a Russian hospital, if you think people are being “looked after” there. *wink* Quite often there’s little difference between a Russian hospital and a concentration camp or torture chamber

See here:

http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2006/09/that-form-of-torture-they-call-russian.html

and also check out the fourth picture from the bottom here:

http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2006/10/sunday-photos.html

Also, you’ve apparently not heard about the famous Russian village of Potemkin. Russia’s government does understand that it has to put up a pretext of civilization since it lacks the resources for a real neo-Stalinist crackdown. And how about asking the converse question: If Russian hospitals really care for people, why did Boris Yeltsin bring in foreign doctors?

But really all you need to know where Russian hospitals are concerned is (a) last weekend they killed 54 people and (b) Russia’s popoulation is a net loser of 1 million ever year. That about as uncaring as you can get without actually building gas chambers.

Here’s a link on the bombing committee members being taken out one by one:

http://www.publiuspundit.com/?p=3079

On the medical front, you might be also interested in the way neo-Soviet Russia is re-weaponizing psychiatry:

http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2006/06/neo-soviet-union-brings-back-use-of.html

]]> By: Andy http://siberianlight.net/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/comment-page-1/#comment-2902 Andy Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:18:09 +0000 http://www.siberianlight.net/2006/12/09/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/#comment-2902 Hmm, not sure I entirely agree with your upbeat analysis there Kim. For one thing, if Russians totally disregrard 'defective' human life, what were they doing looking after them in a hospital (albiet a horribly unsafe one)? By the way - I haven't really heard much about the deaths of members of the appartment bombings investigating committee. Do you have any links? Hmm, not sure I entirely agree with your upbeat analysis there Kim.

For one thing, if Russians totally disregrard ‘defective’ human life, what were they doing looking after them in a hospital (albiet a horribly unsafe one)?

By the way – I haven’t really heard much about the deaths of members of the appartment bombings investigating committee. Do you have any links?

]]> By: La Russophobe http://siberianlight.net/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/comment-page-1/#comment-2901 La Russophobe Sun, 10 Dec 2006 12:39:15 +0000 http://www.siberianlight.net/2006/12/09/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/#comment-2901 This is really just a reflection of the four basic facts about Russia that work in symbiosis: (a) total disregard for the value of individual human life, particularly "defective" human life such as homosexuals or drug addicts or non-Slavics, and (b) total incomptence and (c) leeching of the nation's financial blood by a clan of oligarchs in the Kremlin and (d) abject public indifference (read it as cowardliness, laziness or just plain stupidity, as you will). These are consistent features of Russian history right the way back through the ages. Russians were far more annoyed at the affront to Slavic power by the Beslan and Dubrovka attacks than by the loss of life, to which the regime contributed in equal measure with the terrorists, and the people have not supported inquiries. The situation is even worse with the 1999 apartment bombings, where the Kremlin is killing off the investigating committee one by one and the public not only fails to defend them but allows the Kremlin to paint the effort as an anti-Russian conspiracy. Today's Russian adults are condeming their children to decades more Soviet rule, and that's an outrage (they've stood idly by while non-state television has been obliterated and Putin has taken control over both national political parties and local elections). Hence, russophobia. We can either confront the Russians now and suffer less, or confront them later and suffer more. This is really just a reflection of the four basic facts about Russia that work in symbiosis: (a) total disregard for the value of individual human life, particularly “defective” human life such as homosexuals or drug addicts or non-Slavics, and (b) total incomptence and (c) leeching of the nation’s financial blood by a clan of oligarchs in the Kremlin and (d) abject public indifference (read it as cowardliness, laziness or just plain stupidity, as you will). These are consistent features of Russian history right the way back through the ages. Russians were far more annoyed at the affront to Slavic power by the Beslan and Dubrovka attacks than by the loss of life, to which the regime contributed in equal measure with the terrorists, and the people have not supported inquiries. The situation is even worse with the 1999 apartment bombings, where the Kremlin is killing off the investigating committee one by one and the public not only fails to defend them but allows the Kremlin to paint the effort as an anti-Russian conspiracy. Today’s Russian adults are condeming their children to decades more Soviet rule, and that’s an outrage (they’ve stood idly by while non-state television has been obliterated and Putin has taken control over both national political parties and local elections).

Hence, russophobia. We can either confront the Russians now and suffer less, or confront them later and suffer more.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Russia: Deadly Hospital Fire http://siberianlight.net/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/comment-page-1/#comment-2900 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Russia: Deadly Hospital Fire Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:34:47 +0000 http://www.siberianlight.net/2006/12/09/hospital-fire-kills-45-women/#comment-2900 [...] Andy Young has relaunched Siberian Light, a blog on Russia, and reports on a deadly fire at a Moscow drug rehabilition hospital, which killed 45 women last night. Veronica Khokhlova [...] [...] Andy Young has relaunched Siberian Light, a blog on Russia, and reports on a deadly fire at a Moscow drug rehabilition hospital, which killed 45 women last night. Veronica Khokhlova [...]

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