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		<title>By: Tim Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone interested in the UN report detailing the numbers murdered by the Serbs in Srebrenica, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.domovina.net/archive/2000/20000516_manning.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here is the link&lt;/a&gt;.  I urge anyone not convinced that a massacre did occur to read it.

By contrast, ZMag contributes to the debate with such articles as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=14137&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;Genocide Inflation is the Real Human Rights Threat: Yugoslavia and Rwanda&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; where we learn that:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;the claims of 8,000 executed [at Srebrenica in 1995] have never been verified by forensic or credible witness evidence of anything like this scale of killing&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Which suggests the UN report is made up, probably by a NATO kangaroo mass media, or a mass Eng. Lang. court, or something.

On the subject of the Serb ethnic cleansing campaigns in Kosovo, I refer to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hrw.org/worldreport99/europe/yugoslavia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; by Human Rights Watch, which relates to events in 1998, a year before the NATO intevention:

&lt;em&gt;The government offensive was an apparent attempt to crush civilian support for the rebels. Government forces attacked civilians, systematically destroyed towns, and forced thousands of people to flee their homes. One attack in August near Senik killed seventeen civilians who were hiding in the woods. The police were seen looting homes, destroying already abandoned villages, burning crops, and killing farm animals.

The majority of those killed and injured were civilians. At least 300,000 people were displaced, many of them women and children now living without shelter in the mountains and woods. In October, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) identified an estimated 35,000 of the displaced as particularly at risk of exposure to the elements. Most were too afraid to return to their homes due to the continued police presence.&lt;/em&gt;

No doubt Averko will dismiss all of the above as propaganda, or - having learned a new word from me - childlike, but I encourage anyone else to consider these sources before buying into the Serb propaganda which Averko is peddling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested in the UN report detailing the numbers murdered by the Serbs in Srebrenica, <a href="http://www.domovina.net/archive/2000/20000516_manning.pdf" rel="nofollow">here is the link</a>.  I urge anyone not convinced that a massacre did occur to read it.</p>
<p>By contrast, ZMag contributes to the debate with such articles as <a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=14137" rel="nofollow"><em>&#8220;Genocide Inflation is the Real Human Rights Threat: Yugoslavia and Rwanda&#8221;</em></a> where we learn that:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;the claims of 8,000 executed [at Srebrenica in 1995] have never been verified by forensic or credible witness evidence of anything like this scale of killing&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Which suggests the UN report is made up, probably by a NATO kangaroo mass media, or a mass Eng. Lang. court, or something.</p>
<p>On the subject of the Serb ethnic cleansing campaigns in Kosovo, I refer to <a href="http://www.hrw.org/worldreport99/europe/yugoslavia.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a> by Human Rights Watch, which relates to events in 1998, a year before the NATO intevention:</p>
<p><em>The government offensive was an apparent attempt to crush civilian support for the rebels. Government forces attacked civilians, systematically destroyed towns, and forced thousands of people to flee their homes. One attack in August near Senik killed seventeen civilians who were hiding in the woods. The police were seen looting homes, destroying already abandoned villages, burning crops, and killing farm animals.</p>
<p>The majority of those killed and injured were civilians. At least 300,000 people were displaced, many of them women and children now living without shelter in the mountains and woods. In October, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) identified an estimated 35,000 of the displaced as particularly at risk of exposure to the elements. Most were too afraid to return to their homes due to the continued police presence.</em></p>
<p>No doubt Averko will dismiss all of the above as propaganda, or &#8211; having learned a new word from me &#8211; childlike, but I encourage anyone else to consider these sources before buying into the Serb propaganda which Averko is peddling.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At best, Newman has a learning disability. He&#039;s otherwise a flat out demagogue or a combo.

At that thread, his pious characterizations were fully addressed. He had no comeback, other than his repeat convoluted observations.

This is to be expected from someone having a high regard to a neocon tilted blog which does a lousy job at adressing views running opposite of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best, Newman has a learning disability. He&#8217;s otherwise a flat out demagogue or a combo.</p>
<p>At that thread, his pious characterizations were fully addressed. He had no comeback, other than his repeat convoluted observations.</p>
<p>This is to be expected from someone having a high regard to a neocon tilted blog which does a lousy job at adressing views running opposite of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Like at the 400 plus SL thread, where you carried on like an autistic child about how Serbia “lost” the right to govern Kosovo.</em></p>
<p>Yes, because although detection rates of autism in children is improving, it is still very difficult.  At least it was, until doctors discovered the Averko method of detection wherby any child condemning Serb ethnic cleansing in Kosovo could easily be identified as suffering from autism.</p>
<p><em>In those repeat autistic comments, you didn’t reply to the facts and fact based opinions which soundly debunk such nonsense.</em></p>
<p>Would those be the opinions whereby the Serbs did not carry out ethnic cleansing against the Kosovars, or the opinions whereby the Serbs did not carry out a massacre at Srebrenica?  Such opinions are not fact based, they have been demonstrated to be such, and hence no reply was necessary.</p>
<p><em>You once again misinterpret what was clearly communicated about mass graves in Bosnia.</em></p>
<p>Oh no.  You have consistently and forcefully denied that several thousand Muslim males were summarily executed at Srebrenica.  When I pointed you towards the official UN report which identified by name and burial location these murdered people, you dismissed it as propoganda and instead pointed me towards opinion pieces in ZMag as a more authoritative source.  What you communicated about mass graves in Bosnia was clearly communicated, but there is no misinterpretation: you clearly deny or downplay the massacre at Srebrenica at every opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve outlined why there was a basis for it and you once gain duck those points.

Your excuse for American mass media flaws is typical of the gross hypocrisy out there.

In comparison, Russian media is expected to be more open to your kind of views.

Iraq war II is relevant because of the double standards from the likes of Newman and yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve outlined why there was a basis for it and you once gain duck those points.</p>
<p>Your excuse for American mass media flaws is typical of the gross hypocrisy out there.</p>
<p>In comparison, Russian media is expected to be more open to your kind of views.</p>
<p>Iraq war II is relevant because of the double standards from the likes of Newman and yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for another point that was raised:

It shouldn&#039;t be about me. However, ther&#039;re the ongoing hypocritical pranks.

BTW, Sean Guillory is apparently not fluent in Russian.

Something your jerk friend Chris Doss and others don&#039;t note.

Many a Rusisan born Russian have expressed appreciation at my efforts to see their views better reflected at English language venues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for another point that was raised:</p>
<p>It shouldn&#8217;t be about me. However, ther&#8217;re the ongoing hypocritical pranks.</p>
<p>BTW, Sean Guillory is apparently not fluent in Russian.</p>
<p>Something your jerk friend Chris Doss and others don&#8217;t note.</p>
<p>Many a Rusisan born Russian have expressed appreciation at my efforts to see their views better reflected at English language venues.</p>
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		<title>By: GER O'BRIEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GER O'BRIEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;You’re carrying on like the dumb one for thinking there was no basis for Chechen war I.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have outlined why it was unjustified on numerous occasions to you Mike, and your responses are always the same: &#8221;Russia was right to invade&#8221;. Well, as history has borne out, they were wrong. You dont know the first thing about the place, heck you dont even know what an aul is.</p>
<p>&#8221;You think Iraq war II is more justified?&#8221;</p>
<p>Relevance to this thread?</p>
<p>&#8221; NEVER said Russia has a freer media. You constantly distort what I’ve said.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I didnt mean that you said this -I meant Petro. To which I respond again; bullshit. The man is talking a load of crap.</p>
<p>&#8221;American mass media has some serious issues which others besides myself have detailed with facts and fact based opinions.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it does. But it doesnt have issues even nearly as serious as Russian media has. American media wont publish you or other Russophiles; it doesnt mean that it is censored. It just means it doesnt publish Russophiles all that often.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re carrying on like the dumb one for thinking there was no basis for Chechen war I.

You think Iraq war II is more justified?

I NEVER said Russia has a freer media. You constantly distort what I&#039;ve said.

American mass media has some serious issues which others besides myself have detailed with facts and fact based opinions.

You&#039;re the one who should &quot;put a sock on it&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re carrying on like the dumb one for thinking there was no basis for Chechen war I.</p>
<p>You think Iraq war II is more justified?</p>
<p>I NEVER said Russia has a freer media. You constantly distort what I&#8217;ve said.</p>
<p>American mass media has some serious issues which others besides myself have detailed with facts and fact based opinions.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who should &#8220;put a sock on it&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: GER O'BRIEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>GER O'BRIEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Like your opening barb about “clowns” saying that there’s stability in Chechnya. or such simplistic characterizations as “Great Russian nationalism” upon me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, anyone who reckons Chechen War I was necessary and justified has to be a Russian nationalist. I believe that to be an objective fact. My problem with the likes of you is that there may actually be people out there dumb enough to believe what you are saying. I am convinced you know nothing of Chechnya beyond the Bluffers Guide, and your opinions reflect that. Either that or you are actually evil, which I doubt.</p>
<p>&#8221;You’ve once again failed miservably in trying to slur what I’ve said.&#8221;</p>
<p>I dont believe I have tried to slur you. I simply questioned your views, and you have been found wanting, clutching at hopeless straws written by pro-Kremlin writers. I think anyone who says Russia has a freer media than the West needs to have their head examined or are actually in the pay of Moscow, and I stand by that assertion. This is not about you at all Mike, though you try to make it so. Its about mass murder that you seek to justify, and I dont believe your views should be allowed stand unchallenged.</p>
<p>&#8221;.. where you carried on like an autistic child about how Serbia “lost” the right to govern Kosovo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there any actual need for such a comment? I&#8217;ve tried my best to behave and Tim simply doesnt use this type of phraseology. Put a sock in it Mike.</p>
<p>&#8221;Despite my fear of being accused of stifling debate I feel compelled to ask &#8211; would you children all like a lollypop?&#8221;</p>
<p>A Cola Chupa-Chup would be nice:-)No, ya predpochitayu cigaryeti:-( Kak zhal:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the offer.

I prefer chocolate.

Unless it&#039;s specially made, a lollypop has less of a nutritional value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the offer.</p>
<p>I prefer chocolate.</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s specially made, a lollypop has less of a nutritional value.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite my fear of being accused of stifling debate I feel compelled to ask - would you children all like a lollypop?

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite my fear of being accused of stifling debate I feel compelled to ask &#8211; would you children all like a lollypop?<br />
 <img src='http://siberianlight.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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