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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4852</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a grown man who has backed up my claims with supporting point of fact examples.

The person challenging me chooses a different tact by making unsubstantiated claims to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a grown man who has backed up my claims with supporting point of fact examples.</p>
<p>The person challenging me chooses a different tact by making unsubstantiated claims to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4851</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It surprises me that two grown men are capable of having such a pointless and heated argument over sports logos outside of the pub.

Tone it down, gentlemen, please - I&#039;ll not have people throwing Baltika over each other in my gaff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It surprises me that two grown men are capable of having such a pointless and heated argument over sports logos outside of the pub.</p>
<p>Tone it down, gentlemen, please &#8211; I&#8217;ll not have people throwing Baltika over each other in my gaff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4850</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More BS from a likely source for such disinformation.

Here&#039;s another slam dunk to the nonsense he states:

http://russianbaseball.org

He claims to &quot;KNOW&quot; as in not really knowing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More BS from a likely source for such disinformation.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another slam dunk to the nonsense he states:</p>
<p><a href="http://russianbaseball.org" rel="nofollow">http://russianbaseball.org</a></p>
<p>He claims to &#8220;KNOW&#8221; as in not really knowing.</p>
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		<title>By: GER O'BRIEN</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>GER O'BRIEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;As for the other point raised: I’ve no interest<br />
participating at a venue where the moderator shows a blatant bias for crank like jabs, while calling a bogus foul when someone addresses those cheap shots. Likewise with the participant who covers up his lack of knowledge on a given subject by highlighting his knowledge of several languages, while not being so proficient in his own native tongue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, that is not what happened at all. Some points were made. You called them baseless with no explanation. I asked for one. Unable to provide any counter points, you lost the plot and got your knuckles rapped. If everyone who got spoken<br />
to by the referee in a soccer match got as upset as you did, there&#8217;d be no players left on the field. There were no cheap shots that day &#8211; you were simply beaten in the argument and started dishing out dirty tackles. That is all.</p>
<p>Now, back to the eagle. All those points above are in no way whatsoever relevant to your argument that the eagle is popular. It is not. I know this because I&#8217;ve spent the guts of 12 years in and out of Moscow and am married to a Russian and know tons of Russians. You may discount this experience as irrelevant but I&#8217;m fairly sure other many readers wouldnt. The eagle is a symbol of state power, NOT a benign insignia. It is meant to intimidate; it does not signify anything nice at all. I think its a cool looking thing &#8211; my wife even bought me the hockey jersey that the Russian team wore at Torino 06 &#8211; and I&#8217;ve often asked Russians what they thought of it. The response is invariably a shrug of the shoulders and grimace, as if to say &#8221;so what&#8221;? To be honest, I think the letters &#8216;CCCP&#8217; derive much more smiles and nostalgia than the eagle ever did. You can continue to live in pre-revolution fairy-land all you want; I KNOW that Russians dont care for it. The fact that is used everywhere does not in any way signify popularity amoung the Russian people. It is a symbol of the Russian state. End of story.</p>
<p>Andy, apologies for the rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4848</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per a point in my last posted comments, RussBeer and Baltika had a falling out:

http://www.kommersant.com/pda/doc.asp?id=764829

A quick (stress quick)look at the Baltika web site didn&#039;t seem helpful for those seeking the product in the US:

http://baltikabeer.com

Awhile back, I recall contacting that site and receiving a message from a Pittsburgh based vender who said that he could arrange to have Baltika sent to just about any area in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per a point in my last posted comments, RussBeer and Baltika had a falling out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kommersant.com/pda/doc.asp?id=764829" rel="nofollow">http://www.kommersant.com/pda/doc.asp?id=764829</a></p>
<p>A quick (stress quick)look at the Baltika web site didn&#8217;t seem helpful for those seeking the product in the US:</p>
<p><a href="http://baltikabeer.com" rel="nofollow">http://baltikabeer.com</a></p>
<p>Awhile back, I recall contacting that site and receiving a message from a Pittsburgh based vender who said that he could arrange to have Baltika sent to just about any area in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4847</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my frig, I&#039;ve Baltika &quot;Dark Beer&quot; with a &#039;02 bottle date (better down it soon).

The label says: Imported by RussBeer International, LLC, Brooklyn, NY, 11229

As has been suggested at this thread, Baltika is the most popular name brand of Russian beer.  Kind of like how Stoli is the most popular of Russian vodkas.  Yet, among the connoiseurs of such matter, Stoli and Baltika aren&#039;t considered as being Russia&#039;s best in their respective markets.

For that matter, volume over quality relates to comparing Budweiser (the American and not Czech version of Budweiser) to Samuel Adams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my frig, I&#8217;ve Baltika &#8220;Dark Beer&#8221; with a &#8217;02 bottle date (better down it soon).</p>
<p>The label says: Imported by RussBeer International, LLC, Brooklyn, NY, 11229</p>
<p>As has been suggested at this thread, Baltika is the most popular name brand of Russian beer.  Kind of like how Stoli is the most popular of Russian vodkas.  Yet, among the connoiseurs of such matter, Stoli and Baltika aren&#8217;t considered as being Russia&#8217;s best in their respective markets.</p>
<p>For that matter, volume over quality relates to comparing Budweiser (the American and not Czech version of Budweiser) to Samuel Adams.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have noted, there are a few kinds of Russian beers available in the US. I enjoyed picking up Baltikas every once in a while in Seattle. I&#039;ve yet to find a place that sells them here in the Kansas City area. (And truth be told, I&#039;d be surprised were I to find a vendor...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have noted, there are a few kinds of Russian beers available in the US. I enjoyed picking up Baltikas every once in a while in Seattle. I&#8217;ve yet to find a place that sells them here in the Kansas City area. (And truth be told, I&#8217;d be surprised were I to find a vendor&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4845</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It being related to Russia&#039;s emblem must play some role in its use as well.

As previously noted at this thread, it&#039;s used by other Russia orgs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It being related to Russia&#8217;s emblem must play some role in its use as well.</p>
<p>As previously noted at this thread, it&#8217;s used by other Russia orgs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it seems as though the only reason the two-headed eagle is used for the Baltika advert is in relation to the caption underneath:

&lt;em&gt;From the fall of the Iron Curtain rises Russia&#039;s No.1 beer.&lt;/em&gt;

It is taking the form of a phoenix.  Clever, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it seems as though the only reason the two-headed eagle is used for the Baltika advert is in relation to the caption underneath:</p>
<p><em>From the fall of the Iron Curtain rises Russia&#8217;s No.1 beer.</em></p>
<p>It is taking the form of a phoenix.  Clever, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/baltika-beer-in-britain/comment-page-1/#comment-4843</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For clarfication, the last point of my last post relates to a Russian made documentary.

I forgot to mention the Russian speed skating team as one of the national sports teams showing the two headed eagle.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;re several others which I haven&#039;t mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For clarfication, the last point of my last post relates to a Russian made documentary.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention the Russian speed skating team as one of the national sports teams showing the two headed eagle.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;re several others which I haven&#8217;t mentioned.</p>
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