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	<title>Comments on: A map of the Russia-US anti-missile dispute</title>
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		<title>By: Russophile: Russian Blogs, News &#38; Discussion - Do the American Missile Shield and New Russian ICBMs Indicate the Start of a New Cold War?</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/a-map-of-the-russia-us-anti-missile-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-4576</link>
		<dc:creator>Russophile: Russian Blogs, News &#38; Discussion - Do the American Missile Shield and New Russian ICBMs Indicate the Start of a New Cold War?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would be trying to catch a missile from behind that was already in the air. There was a map at Siberian Light that showed best why Poland and Czech are actually good locations -- and that map is from a Russian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would be trying to catch a missile from behind that was already in the air. There was a map at Siberian Light that showed best why Poland and Czech are actually good locations &#8212; and that map is from a Russian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The proposed system does nothing to prevent such attacks on [Israel]&lt;/i&gt;

In the short to medium term, is there actually any need for a separate system to protect Israel from Iranian missile attacks?

Any missile launched from Iran towards Israel would have to fly over Iraq, which is surely the most closely monitored airspace in the world at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The proposed system does nothing to prevent such attacks on [Israel]</i></p>
<p>In the short to medium term, is there actually any need for a separate system to protect Israel from Iranian missile attacks?</p>
<p>Any missile launched from Iran towards Israel would have to fly over Iraq, which is surely the most closely monitored airspace in the world at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/a-map-of-the-russia-us-anti-missile-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-4574</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a recent news wire item about Poland seeking Russian participation in the proposed radar system on Polish territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a recent news wire item about Poland seeking Russian participation in the proposed radar system on Polish territory.</p>
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		<title>By: W. Shedd</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/a-map-of-the-russia-us-anti-missile-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-4573</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Shedd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m unsure how radar in Eastern Europe is an improvement over satellite reconnaissance and early warning systems.

Iran&#039;s most likely target, by their own words ... would be Israel.  They have that missile capability now, as opposed to some far-flung speculative future missile capability they might never achieve.  The proposed system does nothing to prevent such attacks on that most likely and immediate target.

Lastly, if Iran were ever to achieve ICBM capability, they would not be required to have the simple missile trajectories shown here.  They also would likely have simple capabilities to make interception difficult to impossible.

I think what this map points out is that if the US cared only about watching or tracking missile launches from Iran, the Azerbaijan plan would be perfectly acceptable (although the location of interceptors would remain unresolved).  However, the Poland-based radar system has several other advantages to the US and NATO, wholly unrelated to Iran and directly pointed towards Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m unsure how radar in Eastern Europe is an improvement over satellite reconnaissance and early warning systems.</p>
<p>Iran&#8217;s most likely target, by their own words &#8230; would be Israel.  They have that missile capability now, as opposed to some far-flung speculative future missile capability they might never achieve.  The proposed system does nothing to prevent such attacks on that most likely and immediate target.</p>
<p>Lastly, if Iran were ever to achieve ICBM capability, they would not be required to have the simple missile trajectories shown here.  They also would likely have simple capabilities to make interception difficult to impossible.</p>
<p>I think what this map points out is that if the US cared only about watching or tracking missile launches from Iran, the Azerbaijan plan would be perfectly acceptable (although the location of interceptors would remain unresolved).  However, the Poland-based radar system has several other advantages to the US and NATO, wholly unrelated to Iran and directly pointed towards Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; News Brief, Running Away Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Second Hand Conjecture &#187; News Brief, Running Away Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a different location from Poland? Who can tell those people apart anyway? Meanwhile, a look at a map shows by the original placement&#8212;in Eastern Europe, not Azerbaijan&#8212;is the only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a different location from Poland? Who can tell those people apart anyway? Meanwhile, a look at a map shows by the original placement&#8212;in Eastern Europe, not Azerbaijan&#8212;is the only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Conjecturer &#187; News Brief, Running Away Edition</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/a-map-of-the-russia-us-anti-missile-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-4571</link>
		<dc:creator>The Conjecturer &#187; News Brief, Running Away Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a different location from Poland? Who can tell those people apart anyway? Meanwhile, a look at a map shows by the original placement&#8212;in Eastern Europe, not Azerbaijan&#8212;is the only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a different location from Poland? Who can tell those people apart anyway? Meanwhile, a look at a map shows by the original placement&#8212;in Eastern Europe, not Azerbaijan&#8212;is the only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: db330</title>
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		<dc:creator>db330</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, two underreported arguments against ABM:

- No government in Washington, Brussels, or Moscow will ever let Iran develop nuclear weapons and the missiles to launch them; in fact, many American politicians running for president support the idea of nuclear bombing Iran to prevent it from acquiring nuclear/missile technology! And if the Washington doesn&#039;t bomb it, then Tel Aviv will.

Lavrov pointed out yesterday that proposing Azerbaijan as a site does not mean that Russia at all thinks Iran poses a reliable threat.

- And in the purely hypothetical case that an unfriendly Middle East actor does acquire this weaponry; using it will simply be suicide.

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I read a piece last week how the reasons given for wanting ABM have changed through the years (like the reasons for invading Iraq changed). At first I think they specifically said Iran and North Korea. Now they&#039;re saying rogue states, being ambiguous, in case Iran is taken out, there will still be validation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, two underreported arguments against ABM:</p>
<p>- No government in Washington, Brussels, or Moscow will ever let Iran develop nuclear weapons and the missiles to launch them; in fact, many American politicians running for president support the idea of nuclear bombing Iran to prevent it from acquiring nuclear/missile technology! And if the Washington doesn&#8217;t bomb it, then Tel Aviv will.</p>
<p>Lavrov pointed out yesterday that proposing Azerbaijan as a site does not mean that Russia at all thinks Iran poses a reliable threat.</p>
<p>- And in the purely hypothetical case that an unfriendly Middle East actor does acquire this weaponry; using it will simply be suicide.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I read a piece last week how the reasons given for wanting ABM have changed through the years (like the reasons for invading Iraq changed). At first I think they specifically said Iran and North Korea. Now they&#8217;re saying rogue states, being ambiguous, in case Iran is taken out, there will still be validation.</p>
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		<title>By: Infidel753</title>
		<link>http://siberianlight.net/a-map-of-the-russia-us-anti-missile-dispute/comment-page-1/#comment-4569</link>
		<dc:creator>Infidel753</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the US already has radar stations that can cover European Russia?

Even though the map is from a Russian source, it seems to bolster the case that the proposed anti-missile system makes sense only as a response to Middle eastern threats and isn&#039;t directed against Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the US already has radar stations that can cover European Russia?</p>
<p>Even though the map is from a Russian source, it seems to bolster the case that the proposed anti-missile system makes sense only as a response to Middle eastern threats and isn&#8217;t directed against Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: jibs</title>
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		<dc:creator>jibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, the whole dispute makes much more sense now. Any more maps exlaining other Russian concerns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, the whole dispute makes much more sense now. Any more maps exlaining other Russian concerns?</p>
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